RE: VRML Newsgroup

Ezekiel ([email protected])
Tue, 18 Apr 1995 17:33:06 -0700


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i totally agree that the language and the media that it travels on are se=
parate and related. in this case, VRML is Virtual Reality Modeling Langu=
age, and it should be treated as the language. the fact that in order to=
create cyberspace is going to more than likely require a protocol like t=
he CP that mpesce described doesnt affect the fact that VRML is just a de=
scripx language for viewing 3d space. (and possibly hearing, tasting , s=
melling) =20

i think that we need a separate list (and newsgroup) for the discussing h=
ow to implement a sensual model of the entire internet or even just multi=
ple hosts with .wrl files. i for one am much more interested in how this=
idea will actually work than how to represent 3d objects, mostly because=
i am fascinated more with networking tech than VR tech. (nuts and bolts=
wise) and we will probably need another list (like the [email protected]=
.edu list) for defining ways that objects can interact with one another.=

my vote goes to either comp.lang.vrml or comp.graphics.lang.vrml=20
either one is fairly accurate.

note: i think of a static scene is one that no matter what changes are a=
ffected, if you leave and come back it will be the same. a dynamic scene=
would be one where the changes made are persistent, which would be a req=
uirement for true interactivity.

jzbl
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From: Daniel N. Wood[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 1995 9:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: VRML Newsgroup "vote"

I think Mr. Behlendorf is absolutely correct. It seems clear to me that
VRML is a language/tool for use on the web. It is not in and of itself
an infosystem.

The web does not equal HTML. Ascii is _quite_ commonly used on the web.
Adobe's pdf may become common. Should we have comp.infosystems.pdf? No,=

pdf went into comp.text.pdf.

I vote for comp.lang.vrml.

1) comp.infosystems[www].vrml lose because VRML is not an infosystem. A=
ny
more than ASCII or pdf or postscript are.

2) comp.graphics.vrml loses because there is nothing like vrml in the
graphics hierarchy

3) comp.lang.vrml compares favorably with comp.lang.postscript.

I think you could make a good case for comp.graphics.lang.vrml. The
comp.lang.* group is huge and mostly programming languages. Also,
a quick glance suggests that comp.graphics has been growing into a
larger hierarchy. (_e.g._ comp.graphics.rendering.*,
comp.graphics.packages.*)

So, if any one else will back me up, I'll change my vote to
comp.graphics.lang.vrml.

Daniel.

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