Never said a word about ethics and efficacy.  I was referring to
success, profit and reality.  But, I get your point.  I'll shut up
about it.
Carl
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PS - Boy, we REALLY need that newsgroup, don't we!!  This 
list is a mailbox flooder!  And it's beginning to look like a single
layer group won't cut it - this list has really diversified.